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Just a thought - we've got people banging on about scenarios with flat maps, adding new eras, revamped editors. So far, all that's been confirmed are a scenario editor (although how that will work out is questionable), new civs, some new worker build actions, multiplayer and...? Perhaps we'll get more solid info closer to release. I definately want to know more about the scenario editor before I buy!
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Some people are expecting too much, some people aren't, and some even refuse to buy the XP because they think that it was features that should've been included in the original release (you people know who you are, so feel free NOT to share that with us).
Personally, I'm not going to make too many expectations. That way, it will be easier to get over it if the XP is a crock, and I'll be all the more happy if it turns Civ III into the masterpiece it should've been.
But I'll definitely want to know what I'm buying, so I'll read reviews and stuff like that at the time of release before I actually go out and buy."Corporation, n, An ingenious device for obtaining individual profit without individual responsibility." -- Ambrose Bierce
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Depends. I often thinks people expect too much, and this will lead to much whining as PtW won't ever match the astronomical expectations of some (as Civ3 didn't match the expectations of many, hence the whining)
But I love taking part of the speculation from the tyniest bit of info, simply because it's fun. But all my wishes and stupid speculations sure aren't my expecations, which are rpetty reasonable :
- a scenario editor, ala Civ2, without any scripting language (that will be for the second expansion)
- I'm not sure if the graphic sets will come with according scenarios, and I don't mind : the fans will soon have done better scenarios with these than the Firaxians anyways.
- A working MP (I'm not an MP fan, so I'm not that enthusiastic)
- Now that I've seen the screenshots, a slightly enhanced interface, nothing astounding.
- 8 new Civs, maybe with a new Civ-trait or two. That would be great, but the probabilities for it are under 20% IMO.
- Some changes made to diplomacy in order to adapt the diplomacy model to MP. Weak probability they add an information screen to know something about a rival without disturbing him.
Anyhow, if the XP holds only its promises without any extra, I think it will be worth $30(well, 35 €)."I have been reading up on the universe and have come to the conclusion that the universe is a good thing." -- Dissident
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Ah! The second cash-in!Originally posted by Spiffor
- a scenario editor, ala Civ2, without any scripting language (that will be for the second expansion)
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Personally, I don't have a great expectation for the XP. I just want what is advertised, the 8 new civs (yes I know I could add my own if I got off my lazy ass) radar, airbases, MP (though I won't play much). If the scenario editor/creator is great ( which I hope) then that is just cake, to me. Course, I am happy with the game, which means that unless they screw up the game, I will be ok with it.Comment
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atw has captured my sentiment.
I'd go further and fervently hope that people not get their hopes too high. I don't wanna be around here when they are dashed. It aint never going to be SMAC at 4000bc, sorry. Civ is NOT, and never will be SMAC.(\__/)
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Here here.Originally posted by notyoueither
I'd go further and fervently hope that people not get their hopes too high. I don't wanna be around here when they are dashed. It aint never going to be SMAC at 4000bc, sorry. Civ is NOT, and never will be SMAC.
We've already had more than our fill of the whiners and their useless ranting over the original game itself."Corporation, n, An ingenious device for obtaining individual profit without individual responsibility." -- Ambrose Bierce
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Are we expecting to much? No, if the last six months of these forum proves anything it's that we have an ability to accept to little...Try http://wordforge.net/index.php for discussion and debate.Comment
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I'm with ATW and NYE. I want my scenario editor, MP, and a few tweaks. As long as those are included I'll be happy. Anything extra will be icing on the cake.
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Heh, of course they are, where would the whiners go once PTW comes out if they wern't expecting too much? But seriously, i'm just waiting for it to come out so I can try it like I did with Civ3. Its fine to want something in a game thats coming out, its a different thing to expect it in a game thats coming out.
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Expecting what has been advertised is not too high of an expectation. Expecting a 'real' scenario editor (i.e. including flat maps) is not too high of an expectation, either, because a scenario editor has been advertised as part of the produt.However, it is difficult to believe that 2 times 2 does not equal 4; does that make it true? On the other hand, is it really so difficult simply to accept everything that one has been brought up on and that has gradually struck deep roots – what is considered truth in the circle of moreover, really comforts and elevates man? Is that more difficult than to strike new paths, fighting the habitual, experiencing the insecurity of independence and the frequent wavering of one’s feelings and even one’s conscience, proceeding often without any consolation, but ever with the eternal goal of the true, the beautiful, and the good? - F.N.Comment
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"Moo" said the company that had to cover the costs of a highly paid team to work on another game for an extra year and a half...
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